DSV4 Inference Kernel
⚠️⚠️⚠️ CRITICAL: TMA Partition Tensor Mode Ordering ⚠️⚠️⚠️
THIS BUG COST US AN ENTIRE DAY. READ THIS. BURN IT INTO YOUR BRAIN.
After cpasync.tma_partition(), the output GMEM tensor has 4 modes (verified on B200):
tBgK shape: (((64, 128), 1), ?, KV_tiles, ?)
mode 0 1 2 3
Mode 2 is the GMEM tile dimension. The dimension you index with kt to load different K/V tiles.
THE WRONG WAY (what we did — silently loads from tile 0 forever):
# ❌❌❌ (None,None,0,0) KEEPS MODES 0,1 FREE, SETS MODE 2 TO 0 ❌❌❌
# Mode 2 (the KV tile dim) gets collapsed to coordinate 0.
# TMA ALWAYS reads from tile 0.
tBgK = tBgK[(None, None, 0, 0)] # ← WRONG! Mode 2 pinned to 0!
# The copy "works" but kv_coord indexes mode 1 (inner GEMM K, not KV tiles).
cute.copy(tma_k, tBgK[(None, kv_coord)], ...) # ← kv_coord indexes wrong mode!
THE RIGHT WAY (verified on B200 at n=128 and n=256):
# ✅ (None,0,None,0) keeps modes 0 and 2 free → 2D tensor
# Mode 2 (KV tiles) survives as the second mode.
tBgK = tBgK[(None, 0, None, 0)]
# ✅ [None, kt] indexes the surviving mode 1 (originally mode 2 = KV tiles)
cute.copy(tma_k, tBgK[None, kt], ...)
# ^^ THIS IS THE KV TILE DIM
Verified shapes on B200 (May 22, n=256, inside @cute.kernel):
Before slice: tBgK = (((64,128),1), Int32(?), Int32(?), Int32(?)) — 4 modes
After (None,0,None,0): tBgK = (((64,128),1), Int32(?)) — 2 modes
WHY THIS IS SO INSIDIOUS
- No error, no warning. The slice
tBgK[(None,None,0,0)]silently sets mode 2 to 0. - Single-tile (n=128) works perfectly. With only 1 KV tile, mode 2 is size 1, so the bug is invisible.
- Multi-tile tests produce "reasonable" output. The TMA loads from tile 0 every time, so you get a valid (but wrong) attention computation. Cosine similarity is 0.7-0.9, not NaN.
- The strides are all 0. Printing
tBgK.layout.strideshows all zeros for TMA tensors. You can't detect the bug from strides alone. cute.printfshowskv_coord=0. We thought the JIT was constant-folding the variable. It wasn't — the variable was fine, but it was indexing the wrong mode.- The 8-mode theory was wrong. We assumed tma_partition produced 8 TMA coordinate dimensions. It produces 4. The 8-None no-op slice fails with "weakly congruent" at JIT compile.
THE LESSON
PRINT THE SHAPES. ALWAYS. Run print(f"tBgK: shape={cute.shape(tBgK)}") inside @cute.kernel at trace time. The shapes are your ground truth. Reasoning about mode counts without evidence is how we wasted a day.
The correct pre-slice depends on which mode is the GMEM tile iteration axis. For our local_tile + partition_B + group_modes(0,3) pattern, mode 2 is the KV tile axis. (None,0,None,0) keeps it free. (None,None,0,0) collapses it to 0.
# ALWAYS verify the shape at trace time:
print(f"tBgK shape: {cute.shape(tBgK)}") # 4 modes
print(f"tBgK after slice: {cute.shape(tBgK[(None,0,None,0)])}") # 2 modes
# Then index the 2D tensor:
cute.copy(tma_k, tBgK[None, kt], ...)
IF YOU USE (None,None,0,0) INSTEAD OF (None,0,None,0), MULTI-TILE TMA WILL BE SILENTLY BROKEN.
Architecture
DSV4 is not MLA. It uses CSA (Compressed Sparse Attention, m=4) and HCA (Heavily Compressed Attention, m′=128). KV latent is (T, 512) shared across all 128 heads. Sink weights merge sparse + SWA attention. vLLM misnames this as "MLA" — it is not. The architecture is fundamentally different.
DSV4 inference pipeline — component status
==========================================
Legend:
[✓] built and tested
[~] partial — reference or seam exists, native pending
[✗] to build
┌────────────────────────────────────┐
│ [✗] Embedding + mHC init │
│ token embed + n_hc=4 streams │
└────────────────┬───────────────────┘
│
▼
┌─ Transformer layer × L ──────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ HCA on layers 0–1 of Pro, alternating CSA / HCA after │
│ │
│ ┌─ Attention sub-block ──────────────────────────────────────────┐ │
│ │ [✓] Residual mHC pre + post mix │ │
│ │ [~] Norms + RoPE RMSNorm + partial RoPE │ │
│ │ [✓] Q / KV projection NVFP4 linears + LoRA │ │
│ │ [~] Token compressor CSA m=4 / HCA m′=128 │ │
│ │ [✗] Indexer + top-k CSA only, FP4 QK │ │
│ │ [~] FMHA core QK → online softmax → PV │ │
│ │ + SWA branch + sink merge │ │
│ │ [✓] Output projection inv RoPE + wo_a grouped + wo_b │ │
│ └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ │
│ │
│ ┌─ FFN sub-block ────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │
│ │ [✓] Residual mHC pre + post mix │ │
│ │ [~] Pre-FFN norm RMSNorm │ │
│ │ [✗] Router sqrt(softplus) + topk + hash │ │
│ │ [✓] Routed MoE fused SwiGLU L1 + L2 │ │
│ │ [✓] Shared expert NVFP4 single-group GEMM │ │
│ └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ │
└──────────────────────────────────┬───────────────────────────────────┘
│
▼
┌──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ [✗] Final RMSNorm → [✗] LM head → [✗] MTP (depth=1) → [✗] Sampler │
└──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
┌─ Supporting infrastructure ──────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ [✗] KV cache management │
│ • state cache: SWA window + uncompressed tail per layer │
│ • classical paged cache: lcm(m, m′) = 128 tokens per block │
│ • heterogeneous layout per layer │
└──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
Summary
-------
Built [✓] : 6 — mHC ×2, Q/KV proj, output proj, routed MoE,
shared expert
Partial [~] : 4 — norms+RoPE, token compressor, FMHA core,
pre-FFN norm
To build [✗] : 8 — embedding+init, indexer+top-k, router,
final norm, LM head, MTP, sampler, KV cache
Status (May 23, 2026 — 02:55 UTC)
| Stage | Status | Description |
|---|---|---|
| A | ✅ COMPLETE | Q@K^T via tcgen05.mma → TMEM → GMEM |
| B | ✅ COMPLETE | QK → identity softmax → P@V pipeline (TMEM alias, KV-tile interleaving) |
| C | ⚠️ SINGLE-TILE OK, MULTI-TILE 3% ERROR | n=128 cos 0.973. n=256 cos 0.793. TMEM layout mismatch between MMA C-fragment and get_tmem_load_op. See below. |
| D | TODO | Full decode attention: paged KV cache, multi-query, causal mask |
| E | TODO | Production kernel: extract into dsv4/kernels/attention/, PyTorch custom op, vLLM bridge |
Package Structure
dsv4/
├── kernels/ Pure GPU code (CuTeDSL @cute.jit, .cu files)
│ ├── gemm/ NVFP4 MoE GEMM kernels (grouped, fused_swiglu, dense, scheduler)
│ ├── attention/ FMHA kernel (stub — extraction is Stage E)
│ ├── compressor/ CSA/HCA token-level compressor
│ ├── decode/ Decode-time attention (sparse, SWA — future)
│ └── cuda/ Raw .cu files (deinterleave_quantize, sparse_topk_metadata)
├── ops/ PyTorch ↔ kernel bridges
│ ├── quantize.py BF16 ↔ NVFP4 conversion, scale factors
│ ├── layouts.py Scale swizzle, gate/up interleave, K-major, offsets
│ ├── gemm_runner.py Warmup, compile, run grouped/fused GEMMs
│ ├── custom_ops.py torch.library.custom_op registrations
│ ├── decode_sparse.py native_sparse_decode dispatcher
│ ├── decode_swa.py native_swa_decode dispatcher
│ ├── rope.py Forward + inverse RoPE
│ └── topk.py Python wrapper for sparse_topk_metadata.cu
├── layers/ nn.Module-style components
│ ├── linear.py Nvfp4Linear
│ ├── grouped_linear.py Nvfp4GroupedLinear
│ ├── moe.py Nvfp4MoE
│ ├── shared_expert.py Nvfp4SharedExpert
│ ├── mhc.py mHCLayer
│ └── (stubs: attention, ffn, router, norm, embedding)
├── model/ Model assembly (stubs — Phase 1)
├── cache/ KV cache infra (stubs — Phase 3)
├── loader/ Checkpoint I/O (stubs — Phase 1)
└── reference/ Slow PyTorch oracles (never imported by production code)
├── attention.py RoPE, KV cache, causal attention, SWA
├── csa_attention.py CSA/HCA sparse attention
├── compressor.py Compressor PyTorch example
└── moe_pipeline.py MoE pipeline reference
Mental model: kernels/ → ops/ → layers/ → model/ (dependency flows left to right). reference/ and loader/ are sidecars.
Active Test Files
FMHA (Stages A/B/C) — in tests/unit/
| File | Stage | Status |
|---|---|---|
test_fmha_v3.py |
A+B | ✅ Full QK→identity softmax→PV, cosine 0.999999 |
test_fmha_v3_12w.py |
A+B | ✅ 12-warp QK→PV, cosine 0.999999 |
test_fmha_v3_stage_c_full.py |
C | ✅ Real online softmax + O normalization, cosine 0.993-0.996 |
test_fmha_v3_stage_c_min.py |
C | 🔨 Early 12-warp pipeline (broken pipeline state) |
test_pv64_with_softmax.py |
B | ✅ (128,64) PV, single AB pipeline |
test_128_128_vdiag.py |
A+B | ✅ (128,128) PV baseline |
test_qkonly.py |
A | ✅ QK with split Q/KV pipelines |
test_qk_softmax.py |
A+B | ✅ QK + identity softmax, no PV |
MoE / GEMM — in tests/unit/
| File | What |
|---|---|
test_cutedsl.py |
NVFP4 grouped GEMM kernel |
cudagraph_test.py |
Cudagraph capture + replay |
layertest.py |
Per-layer correctness |
test_custom_op.py |
torch.library custom ops |
test_compile_custom_op.py |
Compile + warmup |
test_fp4_roundtrip.py |
BF16 → NVFP4 → BF16 roundtrip |
test_interleave.py |
Gate/up weight interleaving |
test_interleave_gemm.py |
Interleaved GEMM correctness |
test_fused_step1.py |
Fused SwiGLU GEMM |
Archived Tests
tests/archive/ contains ~190 debug files from Stages A/B. Not maintained. Can be deleted.
Test Harness
Scripts in tests/ for running tests on the B200 (root@45.76.247.107):
run_test.sh — Run a test in a screen session
# On the B200:
cd /root/dsv4-nvfp4-workspace/kernel
bash tests/run_test.sh tests/unit/test_fmha_v3.py
What it does:
- Kills any existing
kernel-testscreen and SIGKILLs all child processes (handles deadlocked GPU procs that ignore SIGHUP) - Deletes the old log file
- Starts a new
screen -dmS kernel-testrunning the test - Logs output to
/tmp/kernel-test.log - Verifies the screen started
check_log.sh — Check test progress
bash tests/check_log.sh
Shows the log contents and whether the screen is still running.
Local → B200 workflow
# 1. Edit locally, commit, push
cd ~/dev/nvfp4-megamoe-kernel
git add -A && git commit -m "my change" && git push
# 2. SSH to B200, pull, run
ssh root@45.76.247.107
cd /root/dsv4-nvfp4-workspace/kernel && git pull
bash tests/run_test.sh tests/unit/test_fmha_v3_stage_c_full.py
# 3. Check results
bash tests/check_log.sh
fire_b200_test — One-command local test runner
Lives in ~/.openclaw/workspace/fire_b200_test (NOT in the repo — project-specific tooling).
# From your local machine, one command to push, run, and get results:
~/.openclaw/workspace/fire_b200_test tests/unit/test_fmha_v3.py
What it does:
- Auto-commits and pushes any local changes
- SSH to B200, pulls, starts
run_test.shin a screen - Polls every 15s until the screen exits
- Dumps the full test log to your terminal
This is strictly for the DSV4 NVFP4 kernel project. It hardcodes the B200 IP, repo paths, and git remote.
Stage C: Online Softmax — TMEM Layout Mismatch Issue
Current Results (test_fmha_v3_stage_c.py)
| n | cos | Status |
|---|---|---|
| 128 | 0.973 | ⚠️ 3% error from TMEM layout mismatch |
| 256 | 0.793 | ⚠️ Two TMEM round-trips compound the error |
| 384+ | N/A | Pipeline doesn't cycle past 2 KV tiles |
Root Cause: TMEM Layout Mismatch
The MMA instruction writes O to TMEM using the C-fragment layout. The epilogue_tma_store helper reads O from TMEM using get_tmem_load_op, which uses a different TMEM column mapping. When epilogue_tma_store reads O directly after PV (no normalize), the layout matches perfectly — cos 0.999998 (raw PV output is correct).
The problem appears when we do a TMEM round-trip (load O → modify → store back) using hand-constructed Ld32x32bOp/St32x32bOp atoms:
- NO-OP round-trip (load + store unchanged) → cos 0.973. The hand-constructed atoms read/write using a different column mapping than
get_tmem_load_op. The data gets "transcoded" — close but not exact. - Normalize round-trip (load → multiply by 1/row_sum → store) → cos 0.973 (with preceding NO-OP) or cos 0.465 (without NO-OP). Without the NO-OP,
epilogue_tma_storereads the MMA layout directly and produces garbage. - O rescale (kt > 0) + normalize → cos 0.793 at n=256. Each round-trip compounds the layout mismatch error.
Why the NO-OP Round-Trip "Fixes" It
The MMA writes O in C-fragment TMEM layout. epilogue_tma_store reads in get_tmem_load_op layout. Without a round-trip, these layouts are incompatible → garbage output (cos 0.465).
A NO-OP round-trip through hand-constructed atoms reads the data using the hand-constructed layout (which can read the C-fragment data) and writes it back using the hand-constructed layout. After the round-trip, the data is in the hand-constructed layout, which is close to (but not identical to) the get_tmem_load_op layout → 3% error (cos 0.973).
The Proper Fix: correction_epilog Pattern
The CUTLASS FMHA reference uses a one-way trip for the final epilogue:
TMEM --get_tmem_load_op--> reg (normalize + FP32→BF16) --get_smem_store_op--> SMEM --TMA--> GMEM
This reads O using get_tmem_load_op (same layout as epilogue_tma_store) and writes directly to SMEM. No TMEM round-trip. No layout mismatch. The CUTLASS reference uses this pattern and gets correct results.
Why we can't use it yet: The TMA store from SMEM → GMEM requires tma_partition / flat_divide which hit CuTeDSL region isolation errors when called inside if warp_idx < self.mma_warp_id blocks. The epilogue_tma_store helper works because it's a regular Python function that inlines into the same MLIR region — but it always reads from TMEM, not SMEM.
Possible solutions:
- Call
epilogue_tma_storebut inject the1/row_summultiply into its pipeline (requires modifying the helper or replicating it inline with the scale) - Pre-compute TMA partitioning outside the
ifblock and pass the partitioned tensors through the kernel interface - Use the experimental
cutlass.cute.experimental.epilogue_tma_storeAPI which has a cleaner structure
Verified Facts
- Raw PV output is perfect:
epilogue_tma_storewith identity op gives cos 0.999998 at n=128 - Softmax P values are correct: Unnormalized P@V matches reference exactly (cos 0.999998)
- Online softmax computation is correct: row_max and row_sum tracking works
- The ONLY issue is the TMEM round-trip for normalize/rescale
- Stage A/B with identity softmax: cos 0.999999 — the pipeline works, softmax is the only addition
Architecture (6-warp, current)
Warps 0-3: Softmax + Epilogue (row_max, row_sum, P store, O rescale, final normalize)
Warp 4: MMA (QK, PV)
Warp 5: TMA (Q/K/V load)
TMEM Layout
Col 0-31: S (QK acc, 128 FP32 via Ld32x32bOp Repetition(32))
Col 32-95: P (64 FP32 via St32x32bOp Repetition(32), register bridge BF16 view)
Col 128+: O (PV acc, 64 FP32, rescale via Ld32x32bOp Repetition(16))
Remaining for Multi-Tile Production
- Fix TMEM layout mismatch — replace hand-constructed atom round-trips with correction_epilog pattern
- Pipeline state cycling for n≥384 — kv_stage=2 can only buffer 2 tiles
- 12-warp layout — separate softmax/correction/epilogue warps
- O rescale for kt > 0 — must also use paired atoms or correction_epilog
CuTeDSL Constraints (hard-won)
vectorize=Trueloops: ONLY load/store/print — no fmax, no cmpf, no inner loops, no carry.reduce(cute.ReductionOp.MAX): reduces ENTIRE C-fragment to scalar — global max, not per-rowcute.arch.fmax: impure for vectorizer — use plainrange()loop- TMA partition tensors have 4 modes:
(((64,128),1), ?, KV_tiles, ?)—(None,0,None,0)keeps mode 2 (KV tiles) free,[None, kt]indexes it tBgK[(None, None, 0, 0)]pins mode 2 to 0 — silently reads tile 0 forever. Use(None,0,None,0)instead.softmax_done_barNamedBarrier is reusable across tiles- Hand-constructed TMEM atoms corrupt data on round-trip:
Ld32x32bOp+St32x32bOpbuilt independently introduce ~3% error. Useget_tmem_load_op+get_smem_store_oppaired atoms for one-way trips. - CuTeDSL region isolation:
flat_divideandtma_partitioncan't be called insideif warp_idxblocks. Do partitioning outsideifblocks or in regular (non-@cute.kernel) helper functions. compositionvslogical_divide: Both re-tile a tensor, but produce different layouts. The CUTLASScorrection_rescaleusescomposition,correction_epiloguseslogical_divide. The copy atoms must match the tensor layout they were created with.
Key Lessons
- NEVER use
find_tmem_tensor_col_offset()as TMEM placement. It returns footprint size, not a safe offset. - FMHA never trusts DLPack tensor layouts. Reconstruct V as (hd, s_k) MN-major inside CuTe.
- TMEM allocation must be power of 2.
- Square hides bugs. (128,128) worked for every wrong approach. Always test non-square.
- St32x32bOp MUST use Float32, NOT BFloat16. BFloat16 causes illegal memory access.
- First PV ACCUMULATE=False. Otherwise adds uninitialized TMEM to output.
- FMHA P store uses QK C-fragment composition, NOT PV A-fragment. Two aliases, same TMEM.
- Register bridge: FP32 backing (store partition) + BF16 view (QK-load layout). Do not skip this.
- PRINT THE SHAPES. ALWAYS. Reasoning about TMEM layouts without evidence is how we waste days.
- Never assume TMEM round-trips are safe. Verify with NO-OP tests before adding logic.
Environment
- Server: root@45.76.247.107 (B200, 180 GiB HBM3e per GPU)
- venv:
source /root/dsv4-nvfp4-workspace/venv/bin/activate - PYTHONPATH:
/root/dsv4-nvfp4-workspace/kernel - Model:
/root/nvidia-meeting/DeepSeek-V4-Pro-NVFP4 - vLLM repo:
/root/dsv4-nvfp4-workspace/vllm(modified for Blackwell) - CUTLASS FMHA reference:
/root/cutlass/examples/python/CuTeDSL/cute/blackwell/kernel/attention/fmha/fmha.py - Local CUTLASS clone:
/home/openclaw/dev/cutlass